tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post2160139080442283431..comments2023-11-09T02:43:59.293-08:00Comments on Christian Medical Comment: David Cameron, by his comments about homosexuality, demonstrates that he does not understand what true tolerance actually isPeter Saundershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-19346018858504573372011-11-19T08:53:19.424-08:002011-11-19T08:53:19.424-08:00TRUE tolerance can only be founded upon what peopl...TRUE tolerance can only be founded upon what people ARE first and then what people BELIEVE second.<br /><br />So do gay rights come above Christian rights?<br /><br />Yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-2090787943642762662011-11-08T09:22:19.219-08:002011-11-08T09:22:19.219-08:00Sexuality in humans is not as fixed as you assume ...Sexuality in humans is not as fixed as you assume and numerous authors have written about this extensively.Phone Sexhttp://www.livesexcalls.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-64838931167169861122011-06-13T09:42:36.429-07:002011-06-13T09:42:36.429-07:00You're acting as if christians with certain be...You're acting as if christians with certain beliefs about homosexuality are the victims of a McCarthyist witch-hunt. In response to the specific example of the foster parents who want to teach children that being gay is morally wrong, their beliefs might be rooted in what your favourite book said a couple of thousand years ago, but they are in contradiction with equality laws in this country. When a child is taken into care the state has a duty to ensure they are cared for, and this means conforming to equality laws.<br /><br />Nobody is saying they can't exercise their beliefs, just if that's how they feel they aren't allowed to care for vulnerable children.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-49128900579044299832011-06-09T01:23:40.752-07:002011-06-09T01:23:40.752-07:00I liked the way you have presented various things ...I liked the way you have presented various things together in a beautiful manner. I am really impressed that there’s so much about this subject that’s been uncovered and you did it so well, with so much class. Good one you, really great stuff here.Phone Sexhttp://www.phonesexcalls.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-57516365131162498192011-06-04T13:12:26.839-07:002011-06-04T13:12:26.839-07:00Dear anonymous
I respect your views and hope and ...Dear anonymous<br /><br />I respect your views and hope and pray you can forgive those Christians who have been judgemental and unloving towards you. I hope you can still love Christ himself if not the church<br /><br />A well wisherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-84577574475762477132011-05-16T09:43:09.104-07:002011-05-16T09:43:09.104-07:00I was a "Christian" for forty eight year...I was a "Christian" for forty eight years...and Gay. I saw such hypocrisy and pretence that it actually made me leave the church..... the church has lots of homosexuals, and they live in terror of the bigots who witch hunt us.<br /><br />I dont give a shit what people think who have mistranslated scriptures...I have my life partner of fifty years, and we are far more moral than a lot of bible thumpers I can tell you.<br />Oh....and we have dumped Christianity....it is all imagination anywayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-59496419468301313332011-03-11T21:55:53.067-08:002011-03-11T21:55:53.067-08:00It is understandable that 'homophobic' is ...It is understandable that 'homophobic' is a label that no one wants to have. However when the term was first used it actually meant something quite different.<br /><br />It is understandable that 'sodomite' is a label that no one wants to have. However when the term was first used it actually meant something quite different.<br /><br />It is understandable that 'arsenokoitai' is a label that no one wants to have. However when the term was first used it actually meant something quite different.<br /><br />It is understandable that 'christian' is a label that someone wants to have. However when the term was first used it actually meant something quite different.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-91585180987202107352011-03-11T04:29:25.361-08:002011-03-11T04:29:25.361-08:00Yes you are right about Voltaire which is why I wa...Yes you are right about Voltaire which is why I was careful not to attribute it to him explicitly in saying 'His teaching on tolerance is summed up by the quote, "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it."’<br /><br />It doesn't appear verbatim in any of his writings as I understand although most would accept it as a fair summary of his viewpoint.Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-35110430903942775132011-03-11T03:29:56.462-08:002011-03-11T03:29:56.462-08:00Concerning Voltaire's quote. May I suggest a v...Concerning Voltaire's quote. May I suggest a visit to <br />http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall<br />I find this mis-attribution to Voltaire a commonplace matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-57268859046518369422011-03-10T09:54:09.621-08:002011-03-10T09:54:09.621-08:00Whilst I agree with the sentiments expressed in th...Whilst I agree with the sentiments expressed in this post and the comments, I believe we are in danger of forgetting what the Lord Jesus Christ said ti His disciples and to those of us who follow Him today.<br />That is that we are in the world but not of this world any longer and that if they persecuted Him then they will surely persecute those who believe and follow Him.<br />Paul went on to rejoice in the sufferings he faced for Christs sake, we too should rejoice when we suffer for the name of Christ - regardless of what form this takes.<br />Finally there are many who walk with the Lord Jesus - I being one - who believe that these things must happen before the Lord Jesus returns. Alleluia, praise His glorious name.Andrew Rowlandhttp://www.androw.me.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-40992481645665981252011-03-09T11:38:28.476-08:002011-03-09T11:38:28.476-08:00Back in 2008, or whenever it was, during the Conse...Back in 2008, or whenever it was, during the Conservative annual conference held in Bournemouth Cameron said that he believed in marriage, not on any religious or moral grounds but simply on commitment. Marriage could be between a man and man, a woman and a woman or man and man, just so long as they were committed. This criteria doesn't even come near the morality of Peter Tatchell, who at least believes that such relationships be consensual, enjoyable and safe. There is only one thing Cammeron is hungry for and that is personal power. The sooner he goes and a true Conservative replacing him the better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-6338736984714344122011-03-09T09:25:17.662-08:002011-03-09T09:25:17.662-08:00There's that favourite suffix among all who wo...There's that favourite suffix among all who would rather not enter an intelligent discussion - "phobic." We hear it a lot these days; homophobic, Islamophobic. A phobia is an irrational fear and it seems to me that it is the gay lobby and the politicians they have on the run who are phobic - afraid of open and honest debate.<br /><br />Make no mistake, there is a gay agenda and it has nothing to do with simply being accepted in society. It is all to do with a libertarian ideology that sees the end of all moral restraints such as lower age limits, conduct in public places and freedom of speech for the moral majority.<br /><br />"In my opinion 90% of the people in this country are homophobic..." writes Anonynmous.<br /><br />It is an established fact that 99% of the population are heterosexual so maybe there is something to discuss here after all. Maybe it is paranoia that is driving gay groups to scream "homophobia" every time someone looks at them the wrong way. Maybe its time the great majority stood up for what is normative in society before this tiny minority start taking us to court for thought crimes.Mike Teahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14505904110015305223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-588990205716307132011-03-09T06:39:16.206-08:002011-03-09T06:39:16.206-08:00In my opinion, 90% of the people of this country a...In my opinion, 90% of the people of this country are homophobic, whether they are Christian or not. They resent the fact that homosexuality is being given so much credence in law and education. Only a national referendum will prove this and, bring back wholesome family values.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-54566546696614527032011-03-09T02:47:49.112-08:002011-03-09T02:47:49.112-08:00Seems like the views of a few are more important t...Seems like the views of a few are more important than the views of the many; politicians are trying to alter public opinion almost as if via positive thinking...if they say something is ok enough times, that we might believe it to be so.<br /><br />Smokers were very much in the minority, yet had huge lobbying power. seems to be the same situation with homosexuality - that the weight of evidence suggesting it is not the best way to live your life physically or emotionally, let alone bringing morality into it, is pushed aside because of what appears to me to be plain old political correctness.<br /><br />Yet, like so much of political correctness, those being positively discriminated invariably lose out through that positive discrimination in the end through misinformation and misunderstanding, create a deeper divide of understanding between groups of people.<br /><br />I remember an interview on Radio 2, many years ago, about homosexuality. The debate was, not unsurprisingly, very one sided.<br /><br />When a GP rang in to that debate, wishing to raise the point that the physical problems associated male homosexuality are never discussed in debates about about homosexuality, he was cut off. This was, apparantly, because that point which he wanted to make was unsitable in a deabate discussing whether homosexuality is acceptable as a lifestyle choice or not.<br /><br />My prayer is that the lobbying of the CMF to get the government to accept the scientific/medical data around homosexuality be heard and have a more open debate about this subject, be heard and acted upon.<br /><br />I believe that the truth will set you free; it is not always pleasant, but the truth, by its very nature, is the truth.<br /><br />I pray that the efforts of the CMF, and others, will be successful.Andy Berrynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-44843505137401563512011-03-09T00:47:01.756-08:002011-03-09T00:47:01.756-08:00"The fact that at least one of these incident..."The fact that at least one of these incidents predated the formation of the coalition government suggests that David Cameron is personally committed to his views, and does not hold them simply in order to appease the Liberal Democrats."<br /><br />I think he holds them to appease the very powerful gay lobby and the 'tolerant' Guardian-reader-types. Woe betide any politician who doesn't toe the politically-correct line.James Haslamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08902371259647832662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-46050010912319115112011-03-08T16:22:58.133-08:002011-03-08T16:22:58.133-08:00Peter, you have made some excellent points regardi...Peter, you have made some excellent points regarding tolerance for dissenting opinions. <br />I do not consider myself homophobic, indeed I have good friends who are gay. But I find the notion that everyone in the country has to automatically accept other people's way of life, just because the gay lobby say so, extremely oppressive. I am only an ordinary person, so I am free to say this. However, David Cameron is a politician. What is more, he is the Prime minister. He cannot afford to "speak the truth". He will be out on his ear if he dares to antagonise the gay lobby. This is the reality. Better that he should skirt over the issue, and stay in power, than speak his mind and allow Labour back into the political arena. After all, he hasn't actually said that he approves of what is going on, but cunningly talked of equality and lack of discrimination, without actually committing himself. Spoken like a true politician!<br /><br />RaghuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com