tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post2929364978776333832..comments2023-11-09T02:43:59.293-08:00Comments on Christian Medical Comment: One in three human deaths in England and Wales is that of a preborn babyPeter Saundershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-26857098222313781832012-11-08T04:22:54.122-08:002012-11-08T04:22:54.122-08:00Shane,
>> when an organism has moral intere...<br />Shane,<br /><br />>> when an organism has moral interests in its own right, independent of the wishes of others. <br /><br />What a load of twaddle - and you a doctor, matey.<br /><br />A newborn infant has no "moral interests", so presumably it lacks personhood and is a legitimate target for murder? <br /><br />The fact that a human fetus looks pretty much like that of a chimp is neither here nor there. Some human beings look very much like chimps too (have you seen Dubya?).<br /><br />FFS.<br />Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-57714489697323997092012-11-04T05:44:59.261-08:002012-11-04T05:44:59.261-08:00My view is quite simple Shane, that all human live...My view is quite simple Shane, that all human lives are human persons with rights. This is the view taken traditionally by the medical profession and upheld in both the Hippocratic Oath, which forbids abortion, and the Declaration of Geneva, which calls on doctors to maintain the utmost respect for human life from the time of conception.<br /><br />Your view is that a human life needs a certain level of neurological development before it can be accorded the right not to be killed. This is, I would respectfully suggest, the real serious lie. Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-78753508247125978402012-11-04T05:36:07.065-08:002012-11-04T05:36:07.065-08:00A fetus is a remarkable thing. But it is not a bab...A fetus is a remarkable thing. But it is not a baby or a child, whatever the lingo we use. Maybe you guys should have a look at a chimp embryo or fetus. You'd have difficulty telling the difference. None if this impacts on the personal loss of potential and deep grief felt by parents, but it is irrelevant to the moral status of the embryo/fetus, which is the serious lie Peter is trying to propagate. The concept here is, and always has been, that of personhood - when an organism has moral interests in its own right, independent of the wishes of others. Shanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064454267395375567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-18994425480817716952012-11-04T01:32:46.018-08:002012-11-04T01:32:46.018-08:00Shocking that so many women would rather kill a ch...Shocking that so many women would rather kill a child than keeps their legs together or use contraception. Also the men that think leaving contraception upto the woman & risk putting them in the position of having an abortion is frankly disgusting. Maybe we should be teaching our sons & daughters that although they are free to have sex with whoever they choose doesnt mean they have to. I don't say this for religious reasons as I believe religion to be full of hypocrisy when it comes to Morality. I do however believe that life is sacred & should not be created on a drunken Friday or Saturday night in a nightclub toilet.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05095918437000422948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-89507054331406163772012-11-03T16:22:10.942-07:002012-11-03T16:22:10.942-07:00Shane
We lost two of my boys at age 20 and 24 we...Shane <br /><br />We lost two of my boys at age 20 and 24 weeks. They were born overseas and after the boys were delivered they were given to us in a tiny box to allow us to say our goodbyes. <br /><br />I was shocked to see how fully formed they were. <br /><br />You don't want to call them babies, then I don't want to call you human. I could call you a lot of other things but my comment would be deleted and I want this published. <br /><br />Want to volunteer for euthanasia Shane? I am happy to help you. <br /><br />Phil Phil Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09151392742310244391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-80425303403623181412012-11-03T14:49:42.657-07:002012-11-03T14:49:42.657-07:00Have you ever seen a baby born before 24 weeks, mi...Have you ever seen a baby born before 24 weeks, mine was perfectly formed at 20 weeks and was most certainly a baby. In fact he was beautiful. pompeyannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09711620397438969135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-26896164693175911322012-11-03T14:12:12.104-07:002012-11-03T14:12:12.104-07:00Did your wife call your own children 'my fetus...Did your wife call your own children 'my fetus' or 'my embryo' when they were in utero? Did you? Somehow I doubt it.Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-83852915232368580222012-11-03T12:16:18.692-07:002012-11-03T12:16:18.692-07:00@Shane... oh really? I saw my 15 year old daughter...@Shane... oh really? I saw my 15 year old daughter's heart beating at 5 weeks of gestation (3 weeks post-conception). I assure you, she was very much my "baby" at that point...TankGirl32https://www.blogger.com/profile/00263035939477400157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-65929814372192870792012-11-03T03:46:00.261-07:002012-11-03T03:46:00.261-07:00I rather think the term "embryo or fetus"...I rather think the term "embryo or fetus" is more appropriate than "pre-born baby". The term "baby" cannot really be meaningfully applied to a pre-24 week fetus.Shanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11064454267395375567noreply@blogger.com