tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post739320594713980301..comments2023-11-09T02:43:59.293-08:00Comments on Christian Medical Comment: Savita’s tragic death is not a reason to change Ireland’s law on abortionPeter Saundershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-10176899517233224922012-11-26T09:20:13.214-08:002012-11-26T09:20:13.214-08:00Keep telling yourselves that the laws are fine and...Keep telling yourselves that the laws are fine and there is no need to change them...<br />[url=http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/11/another-irish-abortion-scandal-emerges]http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2012/11/another-irish-abortion-scandal-emerges[/url]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-49030030802921403392012-11-21T11:24:50.369-08:002012-11-21T11:24:50.369-08:00Why not, the author of the article has jumped the ...Why not, the author of the article has jumped the gun with his assumptions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-27296687256628024742012-11-18T12:44:48.363-08:002012-11-18T12:44:48.363-08:00I agree. Thank you.I agree. Thank you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088311799881120363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-68927122853871648222012-11-18T12:42:56.817-08:002012-11-18T12:42:56.817-08:00We don't know that yet, we have to wait for th...We don't know that yet, we have to wait for the report. Please don't jump the gun here.Treasanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-48317120192217621852012-11-16T14:52:36.225-08:002012-11-16T14:52:36.225-08:00I thoroughly agree with and support these comments...I thoroughly agree with and support these comments (as a 'lay' person). It is very important to bring such well argued and level headed thinking into the public domain to counter the spin that is spun without justification, because it fits in with an agenda. Thank you for taking the time to do this!Mikenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-66292278324694746632012-11-16T11:09:29.034-08:002012-11-16T11:09:29.034-08:00A very clear and accurate view but very rare in th...A very clear and accurate view but very rare in the discussion on this tragic case. The Guardian has just published its 3rd article in 3 days blaming Savita's death on Ireland's law and the baleful influence of the Catholic Church<br /><br />The fact is that we do not know what caused the death of Savita Halappanavar and we certainly do not know whether the Irish Abortion Laws have the slightest relevance to her death. Even had Savita been given an Abortion as soon as she asked for it that may not have made the slightest difference to her death, we simply do not know. She may have had a pre-existing condition she may not have been given the correct Anti-biotics or she may have been given the best possible care by Doctors and Nurses who did everything humanly possible to save and who followed all the established medical guidelines and procedures, we simply do not know at this stage.<br /> <br />The only comment I have heard so far stating that an Abortion would have saved her life is from her husband who is undoubtedly still in a state of shock and who is also not medically qualified. Despite the lack of any supporting medical evidence to back up his opinion the Doctors and Nurses in this Hospital are being vilified throughout the world as is the Irish law to protect the life of the unborn. <br /> <br />According to the WHO Ireland has one of the lowest Maternal Mortality Rates in the world routinely coming in the top 5 or 6 countries and ahead of Britain. That figure alone would suggest that the media hysteria surrounding this tragic event is not justified by the facts.<br /><br />The fact is that we do not know what caused the death of Savita Halappanavar and we certainly do not know whether the Irish Abortion Laws have the slightest relevance to her death. Even had Savita been given an Abortion as soon as she asked for it that may not have made the slightest difference to her death, we simply do not know. She may have had a pre-existing condition she may not have been given the correct Anti-biotics or she may have been given the best possible care by Doctors and Nurses who did everything humanly possible to save and who followed all the established medical guidelines and procedures, we simply do not know at this stage.<br /> <br />The only comment I have heard so far stating that an Abortion would have saved her life is from her husband who is undoubtedly still in a state of shock and who is also not medically qualified. Despite the lack of any supporting medical evidence to back up his opinion the Doctors and Nurses in this Hospital are being vilified throughout the world as is the Irish law to protect the life of the unborn. <br /> <br />According to the WHO Ireland has one of the lowest Maternal Mortality Rates in the world routinely coming in the top 5 or 6 countries and ahead of Britain. That figure alone would suggest that the media hysteria surrounding this tragic event is not justified by the facts.<br /><br />Neil Addisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00489922704972084561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-15731604029144115492012-11-16T03:11:33.551-08:002012-11-16T03:11:33.551-08:00Yes that is right and this is a key component of t...Yes that is right and this is a key component of the doctrine of double effect. But my main point is that Irish law and professional guidelines already allow this kind of intervention so the law does not need changing.Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-15932523072497376942012-11-16T03:08:49.825-08:002012-11-16T03:08:49.825-08:00Isn't an important source of morality intentio...Isn't an important source of morality intention? So if your intention is to save the mother's life, and not to harm the child, but the child dies as a unintended consequence, I think that is morally licit.Sitsiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12410440649485944766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-52810124635681629622012-11-16T01:42:30.499-08:002012-11-16T01:42:30.499-08:00 One reason is that Savitha was too sick to tra... One reason is that Savitha was too sick to travel. So, travelling to India or England was out of question. The doctor had assured that the foetus will die in a matter of hours and then they can remove it. But it took 3 days for it to die and by the next day itself she was transferred to the ICU.Love SMShttp://hindisms.org/sms/hindi-love-smsnoreply@blogger.com