tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post3544728230298182301..comments2023-11-09T02:43:59.293-08:00Comments on Christian Medical Comment: Why many British evangelicals are not that bothered with ethicsPeter Saundershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-6529263912528188472013-12-06T13:20:19.556-08:002013-12-06T13:20:19.556-08:00There is a tremendous amount of misunderstanding o...There is a tremendous amount of misunderstanding of what it means to be Christian. Christ wants the best for us. Hook-ups and shack-ups in no way promote the dignity of the human being to be treated with the greatest of respect. Instead, people who live that lifestyle put themselves in position to be treated like a condom: use once and throw away. Being used as though one is an object does not fulfill the desire we all have to loved and cherished and special to someone in a way no one else is. Statistics show that there is a much higher rate of divorce among those who later choose to marry their "partners." The trust factor is always harmed. After all, if one is an "easy" mark before marriage, how can one be trusted to remain true to another after marriage? <br />So much for those temporary relationships. Now to deal with same-sex relationships. Men and women are different. Those who have had children of both sexes know this to be true. It isn't because they were raised with this toy or that, it's because from the git-go they think and act differently. Men tend to think on a physically-logical plane while women tend to think on an emotionally-logical plane. The two together form a bond that helps the man get more in touch with his feelings while helping the woman to come more down to earth. They need and fulfill each other. She needs his physical strength; he needs her emotional input. No friendship outside of marriage can be as strong as the one between a man and a woman who love each other and commit themselves to each other. <br />Another point concerns children in the marriage. I work around children all the time. Those that don't have mothers yearn for them; those that don't have fathers years for them. No woman can take the place of a child's father and no man can take the place of a child's mother. It won't happen because it can't happen. No woman can understand what it means to be a man and so she cannot teach a boy how to become one. No man can understand what it means to be a woman and so he cannot teach a girl how to become a woman. <br />Abortion and birth control? Are we crazy? We are destroying the problem solvers that are being sent to us to solve problems we can't even know will come upon us! Country after country is dropping to below replacement rate for its population. Are we crazy? Homosexual relationships further take the reproduction of children out of the picture. Yes, they can adopt, but not if people don't put children up for adoption because they have chosen instead to throw them in trashcans courtesy of Planned Parenthood.Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07053234606590985326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-20951002114424869582013-12-03T08:30:28.426-08:002013-12-03T08:30:28.426-08:00I think the article entitle" What's all t...I think the article entitle" What's all this noise in here?!?! " is well written, not a rambling. I can see so many historical facts thrown in. The next writter calls it "rambling"- its wrong, there is no reason for it to be called rambling. You all evaded the issues raised in there and changed the subject of discussion setout there. The person was talking about, amongst other things, euro-centri christinity. Corrupt European church clerics abused the Bible and used it for their own gain, to rule and control and condemn non-European people. To be honest to history, the Bible itself did not originate in Europe, Jesus was not born in Europe, Jesus did not preach in or speak English. H elived in Africa from infancy till He was about in His early teens. He never had any religious racist attitude. But the European church clerics abused the message of Jesus. Colonialist and sugar plantation supervisors were all European church leaders who stood on the heads of negros and calling curse upn the negros, saying God cursed them, by quotting (misquoting) the Bible. How about the segreagtionist "white-church"? particularly, the slab and comb story? White churchs in USA have for many decades used a pinewood slab and combs outside their church doors to stop negroe Christians from entering into "white-only church" building. I bet many of you do not know this because you were not told in schools or your churches. Get a copy of Thomas Gossette's book: racism, an Ideology.." Basically, White church people & their leaders placed a long pinewood slab on top of the outside entrance/door and a comb next to it. Any Sunday morning, you would need to stand underneath the slab and comb you hair at the door. If your skin tone is darker than the pinewood, you're not allowed to enter the church, and if the comb did not go through your hair easily, you were not allowed to enter either. You can work out the only ones who would eneter. <br />How sad is that, you need to know the ignorance, narrow mindedness and bigotry of European Christianity/church. Completely the opposite to Jesus Christ.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-49604752290098285032013-11-26T15:31:51.302-08:002013-11-26T15:31:51.302-08:00In the 1970's and 80's, the popular view w...In the 1970's and 80's, the popular view was that God would send a 'mighty revival', replete with signs, wonders, miracles - as, in fact, per early church.<br /><br />Even then, I could not bring myself to share in the general enthusiasm for the imminent manifestation of God's power - mainly because the predictions jarred uncomfortably against 'end time' scriptures.<br /><br />Instead of a time of revival and healing, the question asked was, "Shall the son of man find faith on earth" - indicative (to me, at least) that, far from a church full of signs and wonders, the Lord Jesus will find only remnants of faith, here and there - the final guttering of candles tearfully nurtured by a battered and weary flock, and about to be finally extinguished by a raging storm of evil.<br /><br />The assurances of 'revival ahead' were pronounced in a time of great tolerance for the Gospel - a time when homosexuality was still largely held in check, a time when society still retained a vaguely respectful attitude to Christianity - even if most people had no intention of embracing it themselves.<br /><br />In those days, people could preach on street corners without being arrested. They could condemn sin without being accused of a 'hate crime'. The state might not have liked the message - but it felt the time was not yet right to prevent it being enunciated.<br /><br />How quickly all that has been swept away.<br /><br />All Christians can do now is hold on! - a white knuckled grip upon the basic tenets of faith, a grim determination not to be swept away by the raging winds of change, and the careful, prayerful, maintenance of that precious candle flame...<br /><br /><br />Philnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-65100659264655206892013-11-25T12:30:25.086-08:002013-11-25T12:30:25.086-08:00Specific cases of abortion and euthanasia are ofte...Specific cases of abortion and euthanasia are often not morally black and white from a Chrisian perspective, therefore the stats quoted in the article seem reasonable to me, and actually very different to those that society as a whole would hold. <br /><br />A generation ago? Views were quite similar then to now, in my experience. A difference now is that the internet gives a voice to a range of Christian views, and people can be shocked to learn that views previously unchallenged amongst their Christian circles are often not representative of Evangelicals as a whole.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18258595689184930365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-72148530259488830442013-11-25T01:44:30.871-08:002013-11-25T01:44:30.871-08:00"Why is it that so many Christians now have v..."Why is it that so many Christians now have views on these issues that would have been considered anathema just a generation ago?" - Remember that TV: dramas, soaps, and much more, blast people with materialialist/CD ideas 24/7; it affects everyone, no one is immuned.<br />"James Jones ... Steve Chalke" - we don't follow either of these people, or anyone like them; Christians know this - but most people, in the end, are affected by the views and doings of celebrities and stars, and Christianity has them like everything else. The "pull" of personality is always, will always, be great.<br />John Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13203951693375197809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-71725672856910088582013-11-23T23:12:03.717-08:002013-11-23T23:12:03.717-08:00I pray that God would wake the "apathy out of...I pray that God would wake the "apathy out of the church and bring in leaders who preach the real gospel and stop being soft on 'sin'. <br />In Jesus mighty name. Amen. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-29385232796983847022013-11-23T13:34:26.754-08:002013-11-23T13:34:26.754-08:00Well I guess if I went around telling everyone of ...Well I guess if I went around telling everyone of my belief in Zeus or Thor I would expect the same.<br /><br />Remember, you're almost as atheist as I am, I just happen to believe in one less god than you do.<br /><br />In any case, how many here who oppose giving people their own choice for euthanasia are firm believers in the death penalty and in no gun controls? Unless you oppose all three, you have inconsistent values and worse, hypocritical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-21865396660953215672013-11-21T10:53:26.581-08:002013-11-21T10:53:26.581-08:00Certainly food for thought. I know young parents ...Certainly food for thought. I know young parents who keep quiet at work about Christian views and are extremely careful on face book, because they perceive their lively-hoods, homes and families could be lost or ruined.Jean Katimertzisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-87833305172583292192013-11-21T03:20:38.903-08:002013-11-21T03:20:38.903-08:00P.S. I meant the rambling above me starting (ironi...P.S. I meant the rambling above me starting (ironically) 'what's this noise'. But, for some reason, it didn't get posted in the reply section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-91166787092065365142013-11-21T03:19:08.007-08:002013-11-21T03:19:08.007-08:00I'm an historian. The person who wrote this p...I'm an historian. The person who wrote this post is clearly not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-65529931911418330532013-11-20T12:30:56.136-08:002013-11-20T12:30:56.136-08:00I think this last reply is more honest account tha...I think this last reply is more honest account than the lot above mourning, it makes me suspect churches but belive Jesus. The person clearly has read history critically. I am stunned by the sheer blatant and ignorance of western church's sickening involvement in african slave trade and exploitation of human kind. The Puritan lot are totally big headed and ignorant people. John MacArthur loves them so much, and I think he is equally big headed as most Calvinists. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-92098204275031612082013-11-20T12:20:15.044-08:002013-11-20T12:20:15.044-08:00What's all this noise in here?!?!
Just learn ...What's all this noise in here?!?! <br />Just learn to accept one another as fellow humankind. Stop fighting over words/texts interpreted to mean this and that according to the perception of the mind of the reader. Literature, specially the Hebrew Texts of the Old Testament, can be misleading. Read just Leviticus and Joshua, for e.g, you would be in for a shock! Can any sound minded person think of the choosing of an ethnic group over another and causing that chosen group to kill/wipe out all children, women and men of another ethnic group? I’m obviously referring to the Canaanites. Apart from the Semites/Hebrews/Jews, all nations were biologically treated as enemies of God. Why ? What was inherently wrong with them? And the land given over as land of milk and honey? The planet we live in has seen millions and millions of human kinds killed by another humankind who felt they’re chosen people of God. The Puritans were the fathers of racism, slave trade et . Through their interpretation of the OT, they laid the foundation for European racial supremacy and racial hatred based on skin colour and language. From the beginning of 1500s, European Christians believed that Africans were soulless race, deserving no "salvation". The established/organised church has been tax feudalistic, the priests exploited the majority of ordinary people. To do that, the clergy created religious hierarchy, giving themselves control of everything, they denied the majority of people they called the "commons" any access to education. They taught people that the status quo was God-ordained" and that people had to accept them, not fight God; everything was taught to be "predestined". Read history my friends, and see what religious leaders have done to humanity. For e.g., around 1700s, Bishop Thomas Newton, Bishop of Bristol, wrote a notorious book which he called "Dissertations I - The fulfilment of prophecy...". In that, the Bishop sets out his doctrines which influenced his time generation subsequent ones too. He wrote "Africans are accursed by God, and that God provided supremacy for the English etc" History is full of evidences. Each religious literature has an influential power on the mind of subsequent generations. Today's Calvinistic Christians read and uphold literature written in the European dark ages when supremacy mentality was formulated, they call their Puritan forerunners as "the Divines", who showed them way of God. There is a difference between Jesus's personality and these religious leaders’. Jesus of the Gospels did not send the Galilean lads to go in to the world and colonise the world or kill human race! He rather taught the lads "to love" and be a good neighbour; Jesus didn’t establish Christianity, He taught way of life, not religion. Religious bigots made an institutional, elitist religion of Christianity. The sense of the word Christianity isn’t found in Jesus teachings. Religious clerics made eugenics? Bigoted interpretation of religious texts can be dangerous as much as blatant atheism or humanism can be in its worldviews! Based on their interpretation, people formed an institutionalised Christianity; they can be the most intolerant, uncaring and hard-hearted people. Most believe in the hotchpotch of their Calvinism, a doctrine developed by a despotic cleric who reigned in Geneva. Your religious views are shaped by your locality. I’ve never seen such a militant & patronising religion as Western Christianity; it sounds a blanket cover, I must say there are many exceptions. Racism came out of western Christianity. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-36873172064693798542013-11-20T08:58:22.699-08:002013-11-20T08:58:22.699-08:00I'm afraid I beg to differ. Joseph Smith preac...I'm afraid I beg to differ. Joseph Smith preached a very different Gospel from Paul. Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-67053547584548196732013-11-20T08:43:04.761-08:002013-11-20T08:43:04.761-08:00Probably because Stephen was trying to get the Jew...Probably because Stephen was trying to get the Jews to see that they had killed their own Messiah and repent, whereas when people today accuse the Jews of killing Jesus they are usually trying to justify persecuting modern day Jews because of something their ancestors did 2000 years ago. Context is everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-35948562143039477782013-11-20T08:32:14.994-08:002013-11-20T08:32:14.994-08:00Some time in the near future Christ will return wi...Some time in the near future Christ will return with all his angels to cleanse the world of the wicked...True lovers of Christ who have been resurrected, along with those who rose to meet him at his coming, will enjoy a thousand years of peace under his divine leadership.<br />As Matthew tells us, false prophets and wolves in sheep's clothing will lead mankind astray.<br />We are experiencing these last days, but who calls mankind to repentance?<br />There is only one true church on the earth at this time which delivers sound doctrine via continuing revelation received from Heaven. It is led by a true prophet of God who holds the same Priesthood as did Jesus Christ when he came to bring the Jewish people back into the fold.<br />The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints stands firm against the mockers and deviants of this world.<br />We have no fear, we preach the Gospel as it was yesterday, today and tomorrow. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-42385608371740403432013-11-20T06:32:31.701-08:002013-11-20T06:32:31.701-08:00This is great Peter. Thanks for writing it.This is great Peter. Thanks for writing it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-16013799172789971642013-11-20T05:15:07.796-08:002013-11-20T05:15:07.796-08:00Amen, Amen.Amen, Amen.Lutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09210584900632538195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-10032995414626647362013-11-19T23:32:17.662-08:002013-11-19T23:32:17.662-08:00thank you for sharing. This was a very useful info...thank you for sharing. This was a very useful information for medu hoc duchttp://duhoc360.com/du-hoc-chau-au/du-hoc-ducnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-5513214009649727322013-11-19T13:02:26.060-08:002013-11-19T13:02:26.060-08:00Thank you Peter for your faithfulness. I am forev...Thank you Peter for your faithfulness. I am forever grateful that there are bold men like you standing for God's truth. I pray God gives you strength. <br /><br />Acts 28:31<br />Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.<br /><br />2 Timothy 3:1-5<br />This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-55480365976104458432013-11-19T10:01:04.143-08:002013-11-19T10:01:04.143-08:00Thanks, Peter, for taking on such formidable chall...Thanks, Peter, for taking on such formidable challenges and battling away where the battle is fiercest. You inspire us to keep speaking up for the faith so many of the apostles died forAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-70189349626244215532013-11-19T01:29:11.946-08:002013-11-19T01:29:11.946-08:00'Persecution began for the early church when P...'Persecution began for the early church when Peter, John and Stephen opened their mouths and started to speak.'<br /><br />Yes, Stephen was murdered by the Jews because he told them that the Jews had killed Jesus.<br /><br />And yet if Christians today say the Jews killed Jesus, they are accused of anti-semitism!<br /><br />How does that work then?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09267356610062260128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-62357301050909840622013-11-18T11:48:25.034-08:002013-11-18T11:48:25.034-08:00"Judge not, that ye be not judged" is th..."Judge not, that ye be not judged" is the favourite liberal Get-out-of-jail-free card <br />:-( - used as it often is, it precludes the exercise of any moral discrimination whatsoever.<br />It's a great article, hard-hitting as well as perceptive - thank you for exercising moral leadership in an area where it's desperately needed, Peter.JennyGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11716114925923085115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-89219067931687769652013-11-18T11:22:06.857-08:002013-11-18T11:22:06.857-08:00I take your point about not creating a victim cult...I take your point about not creating a victim culture. But, What issues of conscience are allowed, then? If a vegetarian wears leather shoes does that mean he doesn't get special catering at work events? If someone pays their taxes, knowing that some of the money is going to be used for funding the armed forces does he not get to opt out of conscription? It's very hard to keep yourself squeaky clean and live in the world. Freedom of conscience is a difficult one to judge, but accusing everybody of whining who has slightly different moral boundaries than you do is a little ungracious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-7761187619104893132013-11-18T11:13:22.225-08:002013-11-18T11:13:22.225-08:00Jan T, The command not to judge is often used out ...Jan T, The command not to judge is often used out of context. We are actually commanded to make judgements of behaviour and belief within the church. It is a Christian responsibility - see 1 Corinthians 5 - http://bit.ly/1bJXNz0Peter Saundershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17222354018504253042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2654455663519806899.post-78264602766499748902013-11-18T11:03:23.078-08:002013-11-18T11:03:23.078-08:00AmenAmensavedbychristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14604242266907426389noreply@blogger.com